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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome, everybody. March 3rd. We're officially in March Madness. Welcome to the Pit Legends Podcast. I am your host tonight, Nick Rivers. Joined with me are my fellow pit legends, Jermaine Dixon, Gary McGee, Lavance Fields. Lots to talk about, lots to catch up on. Like, we start every show. Let's talk about our pit Panthers. 3 game slide. Some tough losses down. Probably what's considered the easiest stretch of the schedule. Every game's a battle in the accident. It looks like all experts are saying probably Pitt's out. We're not in anybody's. We're not in Lenardi's bracketology. Probably have to win the ACC tournament. We do have to win ACC tournament to get into the tournament. What do you think Pitt can do starting now to start preparing for that ACCC tournament and get a bid to March Madness. [00:00:43] Speaker B: To get a bid to March Madness. Like you said it, we gotta win. We got to win the ACC tournament. We are sitting in like, what, 9th, 10th? We're in the back end of the ACC. 7 and 11. Two games left, two winnable games. Two teams at the bottom of the ACC and NC State and Boston College. I don't know if they home or away. [00:01:05] Speaker A: There's one home. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Okay, one home went away. But then both of them only got four wins in, in the acc. We got to win those games. If you wanted to take some momentum into next weekend, I mean next week into the acc. We have to win those games and then wherever we seed it, I, for me, we win those games. I could see Florida State and Virginia taking some losses. We could jump them and that'll give us, that could give us. Instead of starting off with a Louisville Clemson, we could start off with it. I mean, nothing so easy. But like unc, I think we play well against unc. Unc, they're not, they're having a decent year, but they're not as good as they've been. And I think that can help jump start us in the ACC tournament some with a team we beat. We beat unc. So I would like to see us get them first round or Stanford, something like that. But yeah, we just got, we got to win the acc. It's not looking good for us. [00:01:57] Speaker C: Yes. [00:01:58] Speaker A: What, what specifically do you guys feel like we need to do to start getting ready? Because even if we win these games, we lose these games, it doesn't really matter, you know, for the acc, we got to win the ACC tournament. So what specifically are some things we got to do in these next two games to prepare? Like how do we need to improve. [00:02:12] Speaker D: I mean, we just got to find a rhythm because it just comes down to that. I mean, at the end of the day, when you get to the tournament, it's surviving events. It's one game at a time. As we seen last year, NC State, it wasn't in the tournament. They end up winning the AC Tournament and going to the Final Four. So you can get hot, but it's just about figuring it out, man. Figuring out what they need to do to win each game. Getting. I mean, at the end of the day, it's going to be defensive getting stops being able to push the ball, get up the court, get some buckets. I mean, it's just going to take it one game at a time. You know, we got to get a flow offensively. You know, we struggled the last, like you said, the last three games, losing, but we have a chance to get some momentum these next two games, one's. [00:02:48] Speaker B: On the road, ones at home. [00:02:50] Speaker D: Just got to try to find a rhythm, like somehow find a rhythm of something that we see that they see that they can exploit and try to find at each game just to try to build on it. That's. I mean, that's what. [00:02:59] Speaker C: Yeah, unfortunately, I haven't seen nothing to have my confidence up lately, even in the close game. So I think this season is pretty much done. I still wish the guys good luck. I want them to play hard, like the guys said, hopefully catch a rhythm. But just being honest, I don't think we got enough to. To win, to win the ACC tournament after what we displayed the last five to six games. Once again, some games close, but games I think we should have, we definitely needed to win. So as far as this for postseason play, I hate to say it, but this is. We just getting ready for next year. [00:03:31] Speaker A: I. I know there's some talks of Dunn maybe being able to be back if we make it further in the ACC tournament. Do you think even adding Dunn, if we get to the point where we can add Dunn and he comes back, do you think that could help or are we done? [00:03:43] Speaker B: It's. It's tough for me. I don't want to. Want to say we done just because I'm optimistic. ACC hasn't been great this year. Duke. Duke is. Duke came on during the ACC and they. And they're dominating. [00:03:57] Speaker A: Every spread's been like 20 points for Duke games. [00:03:59] Speaker B: Yeah, Duke is dominated. Even. Even today. They beat the. They beat the. They beat down on Wake Forest, who's. I think they fought in the acc. I don't want to say we Done. I don't want to say we done, but close. [00:04:13] Speaker D: Close to saying. My thing is that. My. My thing is that besides Duke, every other team can. I mean, we was in the game with Louisville. We had chances to beat them. You know what I'm saying? It's right there. We didn't pull it out, though, so, I mean, we did beat them, but, I mean, besides. [00:04:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I wanted to say that, too, but I don't know. [00:04:34] Speaker D: Play Clemson. We play Clemson, tight. Play Florida State, tight. Louisville. But when it comes time to Duke, that's just. I mean, hopefully be on the other side and we can get some rhythm. Meet him in a chip, anything can happen. But like you said, it's kind of hard to say that how we've been playing. How we've been playing as hard. [00:04:49] Speaker C: I've been saying. We've been saying that. I've been saying that every week. We are. [00:04:53] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, we. [00:04:53] Speaker B: Right. [00:04:54] Speaker C: I'm tired. What else? I can't say it again. I can't. I can't. I cannot say it again. [00:04:59] Speaker B: You tired? [00:04:59] Speaker C: I see. [00:05:00] Speaker D: You tired. [00:05:01] Speaker C: I know what I see. We done. We're done this season. [00:05:04] Speaker A: I know. I mean, just based on my knowledge, I know. Lee, Maine, you guys haven't really been on a lot of losing teams, maybe overseas. Gary, you have. Have you been on some losing teams that have found a way to turn it around? Like, how does it. [00:05:17] Speaker D: I mean, yeah, I've been on losing teams. I found a way to turn around. One time I came into a team, we came there, they was 05. We ended up going 07. We ended up turning, finishing top five. But that's different, though. That's early in the season. We're so, you know, so deep into the season as far as, like, starting off bad and making a tournament run. College is just different. You got to get that. You got to win the tournament to get automatic, get in there, to even get in the tournament. So that's, like, it's going to take a lot right now. It's hard to see it. I mean, let's, you know, guys just turn it on and just make one of the miraculous March Madness runs that we've seen all the time. But like you said, it hasn't been anything to show us that they're capable of that. [00:05:52] Speaker B: Yeah, Nick, you know, it's crazy you asked me that question. I'm sitting here. I was about to say, I must say I'm a winner. I don't get in this situation, but my sophomore year in Juco, we started off hot. We was, we went into conference in juco. I played in the top conference, but we went to conference like probably like 10 and 2 top 5 in Florida. I think we jumped in the national ranking and then we got into conference play. We finished 7 and 6 sending conference and as I'm thinking about it, it literally lines up with the way pit planned. We couldn't rebound, we didn't defend well and we were supposed to be better and it just never clicked. So we might be done. [00:06:35] Speaker A: You couldn't turn it around. [00:06:38] Speaker D: Hey, we got to keep it a bean or you got to have our integrity, man. [00:06:41] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? Most like I said, I mean we, we know you're going to lose some games. Things going to happen. Even when we was at pit, we talked about it, we had a three game losing streak at one point but you know, we was able to rebound and it wasn't as late in the season as it's been for us recently. So it's just like once again we just trying to be honest. Of course we, we pit biased, but I think we're done. [00:07:03] Speaker A: Okay. [00:07:04] Speaker B: Hey Summer, we could, we could leave it there because I don't want, I don't want us getting too in into too much. I was like, I want to let. [00:07:11] Speaker D: Not know about it. [00:07:12] Speaker B: Let's go. Nick. [00:07:13] Speaker D: No, just go ahead and say it, man. [00:07:14] Speaker C: We here now. I mean we're here man. [00:07:19] Speaker D: We party. [00:07:21] Speaker B: All right, well if you thought percentage where, where we land the blame at? Like where is it? Is it, I mean is it, is it we pointing at players? Is it no leadership? Is it coaching? Is it, is it no support? Like what is it? Why are we, why are we in this position that we in? Coming into the acc, we looked like we were about to be one of the top three teams in the acc. So what, what the hell happened? [00:07:45] Speaker C: You know how I am. I'm, I'm always going to go players first. I'm going to blame the fl. I'm, I'mma blame myself. That's how I was as a player before I go, the coach ain't do this or somebody ain't. I'm blaming myself. So me first. It's on the players, they on the court, they playing the minutes Same way we was 12 and 4 when we was making plays to win games. They, they, they wasn't making plays to win games. So for me, I'm always going to go play it first. At the same time as a head coach got to take the brunt when your team is, you know, doing Bad as well. For me, I go 60, 40, man, 60 players, 40% coaches, man, and that's 60%. [00:08:23] Speaker B: Is it leadership? Is it style of play? [00:08:27] Speaker C: I think it was a combination, man. Just watching us, man, we. We settled too much. We really didn't have. We didn't get in the pain enough. So that's a mixture, man, because, I mean, we've been around. I mean, I know what I've seen with. I seen what the. What the coaches pre. What the. What the guards were doing. So I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know what changed under the lights. Once again, we was 12 and 4 and things was working. So I don't know, man. Like I say, man, 60 players, 40 coaches, man. That's why I'm leaving it, man. [00:08:54] Speaker B: Where you at? Where you at? [00:08:56] Speaker D: I mean, like, you like. Like Lisa, you do got to give the players blame because they're on the court. They got to get it done out there. The coach can only put you in certain situations. I mean, only can do so much as far as helping you get. Put you in situations to help you be successful. But you have to eventually go out there and do it yourself and help the team win. And we haven't been doing that. Just. I just feel like we just wasn't. I mean, we haven't been playing tough. We haven't had nobody to just basically do the dirty work. When you have a team that's not a good rebound team, somebody just say, yo, I'm about to go get every board tonight that's going to help us win. We getting out rebounded every single game. We got guys with size that just don't want to get in there and mix it up. And I mean, as far as coaching, yes, you have to take some of the blame. He does have to take the blame. So I have to. I probably would go. I might go 55, 45. But I go 55 on the coach, 45 on the players. Because he's still the coach. [00:09:41] Speaker C: He's still. [00:09:41] Speaker D: He's still the big dog. You know, he's been there seven years. I mean, this is program right now. So I mean, he got to find ways to make different substitute. I feel like our substitution wasn't, you know, long enough as far as how many players he played. He playing what, six players now? He's playing eight in the beginning. I mean, maybe that's has something to do with it. You got guys maybe tired on the court, not being able to give all they have. You know, they're Tired, you know, so I, that's what I think. I 55 coach 45 players. [00:10:07] Speaker B: All right, I'm at 70, I'm at 70% players, 30% coach. I, I feel like, and normally, you know, I was a coach, I did coach, so I have some sympathy for Capo, but they do show the sum of it. I don't think as much player motherfuckers got to show up. Like Lee said, you're on the court, coach can only pitch you in and the coach can only put you in certain situations to make you look good. You're on the court, you're playing, you have to show up. And then if I'm being honest and that 70%, I'm throwing 50 at the point guard. I'm gonna be honest with you. He was supposed to be the leader. We lost, you know, we lost some guys to the NBA, whatever. Granted, we, he was a freshman. We thought Buzz was gonna be back, but he wasn't. Now JLo, you supposed to step up. Granted, I know you're young, you're a sophomore, but me looking, he looked like he was ready. And through the course of the start of the year, he looked like he was ready. We looked like we were ready. Granted, he wasn't shooting well, but we were playing, we were playing good. And then now when we get into the acc, you can't put guys in position to be great. Like I put on a point guard even when we played. Yeah, Dixon was the coach, but I follow the Vance, he's asshole. Like I, I follow what our point guard was doing. So at the end of the day, that's like I, I, I, I look at leadership on the court to take us to, to the level that we need to be at. And I don't think, I don't think our point guard did that. [00:11:42] Speaker D: I hear you on that. I hear you on that. But still though, as what just us seeing the game and watching the game. Have you seen adjustments that the coach has made specifically to be like, okay, I seen you change that up to help the players be more successful. I'm just saying, have, have we seen that specifically that you seen. Okay, I've seen him do that. Just saying that. I'm just saying that because I agree with you as far as the point guard because he's an on court leader. That's, that's true 100%. But I'm saying he's still, he's still 7030. Is. That's, that's absurd. No, no way, that's absurd. No way, brother. No Way like to look you lefty. [00:12:12] Speaker C: Okay. [00:12:13] Speaker B: Okay. [00:12:14] Speaker A: I cannot wait Lefty on lefty crime you went right at you put. [00:12:21] Speaker C: Listen that was me. I would have blamed myself but I. [00:12:24] Speaker A: Want him getting out rebounded every game. I don't know. [00:12:26] Speaker D: Yeah, I wouldn't. [00:12:26] Speaker C: I wouldn't give him 50, but you know that's my opinion. [00:12:29] Speaker D: But. But saying that the Levant you saying that with the best was when you got. He was a Jew. He's a. He's a senior. I've seen him when he's a junior. Senior. [00:12:36] Speaker C: He's a vet. [00:12:37] Speaker D: He's been. He already been around the block. Okay. [00:12:41] Speaker B: How was. How was he. How was he his junior year then you was there. [00:12:45] Speaker D: What year is our point guard now? [00:12:46] Speaker B: Sophomore. Okay. [00:12:48] Speaker D: That's what I'm saying. He was. [00:12:49] Speaker C: He was under Carl Krauser shout out to the exact. [00:12:59] Speaker D: You know what I'm saying? [00:13:00] Speaker C: Like he has somebody. [00:13:01] Speaker D: He has somebody to you know, follow. You know, follow at least you know somebody that was a good player. [00:13:05] Speaker B: Okay. I mean and then. [00:13:08] Speaker D: Then you look at Brad Brad have advanced to look at. Okay, that's like one and done. [00:13:13] Speaker C: You know what I mean? [00:13:14] Speaker B: But even. Okay, but even still as freshman was Blake. Was Blake the leader for them the year. The year before but Blake came in. [00:13:21] Speaker D: As a junior and a senior. [00:13:22] Speaker B: No, I'm asking was he that leader? [00:13:24] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, I think so. [00:13:25] Speaker C: For sure. Yeah. [00:13:26] Speaker D: Anytime you jump up on the scores. [00:13:28] Speaker C: Table at Duke, you the leader. Yeah, he was the leader last year and the year before was Nelly and Greg was okay. [00:13:36] Speaker B: I mean. Okay. [00:13:38] Speaker C: Yeah, a little 50 alone. That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't. I wouldn't give him 50. [00:13:44] Speaker B: All right, 50. 50. [00:13:46] Speaker C: Well he. He should definitely. [00:13:48] Speaker B: Maybe I could throw something at what you say. [00:13:51] Speaker C: I say he should definitely still he should be putting some blame on himself. [00:13:53] Speaker B: I would be putting. [00:13:54] Speaker D: Of course. Of course. Yeah. He has to. I mean as the leader like you said as a point guard got the ball in your hands the most. Most of the game. Highest usage rate for sure. So no matter what. [00:14:03] Speaker C: So that's just how that goes. And the more up level you go, no matter where you at, where you play, that's. That's the expectation when you of that stature on your team and that's what expected of you. So can't run from that. [00:14:14] Speaker B: Nick, what you think. Nick, you're not getting out of here. [00:14:17] Speaker C: Nick and D3. Yeah. [00:14:19] Speaker A: I'm the host. [00:14:21] Speaker D: And now you know. [00:14:23] Speaker C: That was nice, Nick. That was good. [00:14:25] Speaker B: Got out of there real quick. [00:14:27] Speaker A: I think it the front court could be doing more to keep it. And what it looks like. It just looks like every game we're going into, we're getting out toughed, out, muscled. [00:14:35] Speaker D: What Dix used to say. Out physical, out physical. [00:14:38] Speaker A: We're just getting out physical. There's nobody that really could put their head down and get. Get a tough bucket or get a tough rebound, get a tough defensive stop. We have no, like, no grit. And I just. It looks like we're undersized, honest, compared to other teams. I don't. That. That's just. [00:14:52] Speaker C: We got to go get Ben Wallace, bro. Even though you just on the side. We need a Ben Wild. I need somebody that's gonna come with their hard hat, man. That's what you telling me. [00:15:01] Speaker A: We need some hard hat. Guys. [00:15:02] Speaker B: I heard through the grapevine you got something nice coming in, but I don't. You know, I don't want to say too much. [00:15:08] Speaker D: Okay. [00:15:08] Speaker C: Please see a real big man. I don't want to know your name on his cb. Just put your initials out there. [00:15:15] Speaker A: I will say this. Capable. [00:15:17] Speaker C: Reloads. Cable reloads, you know, cable recruit. [00:15:20] Speaker D: You got to. [00:15:21] Speaker C: You know, you're not gonna play them games. No, he got. [00:15:24] Speaker D: He got a recruit back now. [00:15:25] Speaker C: He up there, and she gets. He just got the. The contract with the Wizard. We were just. [00:15:33] Speaker A: Oh, snap. Champagne. Always got to give a shout out. [00:15:37] Speaker D: That's big time. [00:15:38] Speaker C: I think he got two. Four years, I think. [00:15:42] Speaker A: Oh, that's a bag. [00:15:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:15:44] Speaker D: Life change. Life. [00:15:45] Speaker B: He got the second highest bag at pit, huh? From pit, right behind Steven Adams. [00:15:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:51] Speaker B: I don't think Dwan. [00:15:53] Speaker C: He was signing one years, I believe, outside of his rookie contract for two years, I'm not sure. But, you know. Yeah. Steve Adams got that. [00:16:02] Speaker D: Million. [00:16:06] Speaker C: Matter of fact, my boy Cam, man, be having me at the Nets game, sitting good, maybe. Where. That's what I'm trying to tell y'all. I met. [00:16:21] Speaker B: You see me at. [00:16:21] Speaker C: Do you see me at the game? [00:16:22] Speaker B: You see my stories. [00:16:23] Speaker C: You know what's going to hell a bit, man. You know how we do. We know he wanted to see, too, but he was at Pittsburgh first. [00:16:31] Speaker A: We got to push him up in the practice gym. They got to put him up. [00:16:34] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:16:34] Speaker C: They got to get him up there. And he from Brooklyn, you know, and not. [00:16:36] Speaker A: Not the one getting dunked on, but some get a. Get a good clip on. [00:16:39] Speaker C: My boy played in the same league, too, in Brooklyn Catholic school leagues. I mean, hey, let's get in that Catholic league again. Let's go recruit. [00:16:48] Speaker B: Positive. [00:16:49] Speaker D: Positive yeah, for sure. For sure. [00:16:51] Speaker C: Bub was in the rookie game. I mean, we thought Bud was going to be at pit. Man, I know that's an excuse, but we did not. [00:16:58] Speaker B: I definitely thought he was going to be back. [00:16:59] Speaker C: We didn't think he'd be going out. [00:17:01] Speaker D: Holler at him when he was here playing. When they played here, Holiday. [00:17:04] Speaker C: We did. [00:17:04] Speaker B: He didn't know who he was. [00:17:06] Speaker D: He came. [00:17:09] Speaker C: Gary played against him that year. His first year, right? [00:17:12] Speaker D: Yeah. With tbt. [00:17:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Relax, bro. [00:17:14] Speaker C: Come on, don't do that. [00:17:15] Speaker D: Don't do that, man. [00:17:16] Speaker C: You gave me come up. [00:17:19] Speaker D: Your main ain't come up. Ain't messed with us. [00:17:20] Speaker C: Yeah, but I'm cool, man. [00:17:22] Speaker D: Yeah, he cool. [00:17:23] Speaker C: So he got a good spirit. Good on his shoulder. He should be. I. I mean, I know Washington just been draft organization for some years, so it's going to be tough, man. Get it turned around over there. They gonna love him forever. [00:17:35] Speaker B: Hey, before you go, Nick. Who y'all think. I know we talking college. Who y'all think Washington should take if they get an online pick? Ace or Cooper. If you looking at that roster, you gotta take Cooper flag. [00:17:47] Speaker C: I don't care what you gotta take. [00:17:48] Speaker D: Take Cooper regardless. So I don't know what we talking about right now. I don't know what's going on. No. Guess what? As the gm. As a gm, I'm taking a safe pick. You're not about to be talking about me. That's who you. [00:18:02] Speaker C: All I said was. All I said was I like Ace more. I said I'm taking pooper. But at this, you do all that safe picking, you take. [00:18:10] Speaker B: Cool. [00:18:11] Speaker C: Not that you're not gonna work and you leave kd. Don't be mad. Safe pick is always. You gotta stop, G. I'm man, but. [00:18:21] Speaker D: But you make it seem like. You make it seem like was bad. [00:18:24] Speaker C: No, I don't. [00:18:26] Speaker B: But that was. [00:18:28] Speaker C: No, that was the great pick and the safe pick. At the end of the day, that was safe too. Overtaking any scorer. Yes, it was Indian. Gregory, you know what's up. [00:18:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:48] Speaker C: I ain't gonna lie. Yeah, we not even doing that. Oh, yeah. [00:18:53] Speaker D: Shout out to zbo. Yeah, yeah. We got tough guys. Relax. [00:18:58] Speaker B: I heard about Z ball, so I ain't got nothing to say. [00:19:03] Speaker C: I'm everywhere, man. [00:19:04] Speaker B: This guy. [00:19:05] Speaker A: So, Jermaine, earlier you talked about kind of the ACC landscape and it's kind of Duke and everybody else, but we also talked a lot. Like every week we're talking about how great Big east is. Then on a national scale, media is talking about how great SEC is big. Big 12 is always the Big 12. Big 10 solid because the ACC's down and you kind of see the landscape of college sports changing. Do you feel like a merger with the Big east could be good for the ACC to maybe compete with these SECs who might have 10 schools in the. In the tournament this year? Do you think that'd be a good merger? You think it could work? [00:19:41] Speaker B: I definitely think it could work and it will bring back some rivals that, that the Biggie's been missing with Marquette and UConn. Villanova, who's still over there? Georgetown still over there. St. John's yes. See how playing against Pitt in Syracuse again. And who's Louisville? I think Notre Dame. [00:20:07] Speaker D: Notre Dame. [00:20:09] Speaker B: Notre Dame. I think it would be good. I mean the ACC already got ACC stacked. I think the ACC will have to if they do merge because they brought so many teams from the PAC 10. I think they would. Some teams would have. I don't know how they would do it, but some teams would have to go if you merge the two conferences. But I think, I think they should do it. I think it'd be great. Even when I, you know, I heard something that they are really looking forward to trying to do it. They just trying to work out the money. The tv. [00:20:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:40] Speaker D: Football. [00:20:40] Speaker A: Probably football you got to consider not. [00:20:43] Speaker B: Even football because Big east don't have many football teams. It's the, it's the deal because I think the ACC is with espn. The biggest with Fox. Right. Is the biggies on Fox. I think the biggest Big east is Fox. [00:20:55] Speaker D: Yep. [00:20:55] Speaker B: Biggie says Fox and espn hcc espn. So I think they're trying to work out the logistics of a TV time. But yeah, I think, I think it'd be great. And then to add Duke and North Carolina into that mix with the. The Yukons and St. John's really St. John's you know, having Patino and then Tino going to play Louisville again. Yeah, I think, I think it'll be great. I think they should do it in now just not too. Too power comfortable with the SEC and Big Ten. I definitely think they should do it. [00:21:27] Speaker D: Yeah, I would like to see it done too also, you know, like you said, getting all those rivalry back, all those. It'll be, you know, a lot of teams. I wonder how many teams they would want. Wanted to be as far as like how many teams that would keep. I mean SMU just look out of place in ACC that don't even look right but. [00:21:43] Speaker B: They win in the ac. [00:21:44] Speaker D: I know I know. I'm just saying, though, as far as, like, just. Just out of all the teams there. [00:21:47] Speaker A: It'S like, even Stanford, Cal. [00:21:49] Speaker D: Yes. [00:21:50] Speaker B: What are you saying? Just like where they. Where they at? Like, because then. [00:21:54] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, the locations with Cal, Stanford, smu, it's like. Yeah, well, as far as dealing with the Big east, everybody, you know, most of those teams are on the east coast, like Big east. [00:22:03] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? [00:22:04] Speaker D: So it would be. Be cool to get back to that, that travel around the Big east, bring it back to the. The guard and probably, I don't know, they might switch it. Switch it around because the ACC got so many teams. They like Carolina. [00:22:15] Speaker B: But you know what's crazy? Before you go late, just imagine. Imagine if we would have played. We got to travel to. Because y'all went to Washington. I know y'all love that. Traveling out wise. [00:22:29] Speaker C: Big boy. [00:22:30] Speaker D: Only us. [00:22:31] Speaker B: I would love to go to Houston. [00:22:33] Speaker C: Yeah, I like that. [00:22:35] Speaker B: For me as a. As a player, I would love that. [00:22:37] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:22:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:37] Speaker D: Of course. [00:22:38] Speaker C: I honestly didn't really care for the caban or don't, but after y'all explained it with the whole. Rivalries could come back and the potential of that. Yeah, that would probably make more sense. So I agree with y'all. I probably would help out. [00:22:54] Speaker B: Yeah, they should do it. [00:22:55] Speaker D: Because when you think about it right now, they got the SEC getting what, 12 teams in the time I told you they had them getting that many teams, they got to get 12 teams in the tournament and they got in the ACC and the big east combined, they getting what, not even 12, probably. [00:23:07] Speaker B: Like, what, seven or something like that. [00:23:10] Speaker D: Yes. Yeah, exactly. So that's like, yeah, you got to try to compete with the sec. SEC is like that. [00:23:15] Speaker C: I made good points. That's what y'all get paid for. [00:23:19] Speaker B: They got the SEC and the Big Ten. [00:23:22] Speaker D: Real life. We need a sponsor. Yeah. [00:23:31] Speaker A: Let's talk a Little Big East. St. John's still rolling. It's been a topic of conversation every single, single night. St. John's the end of regular season, big game against Marquette. Do you think they are a one or two seed regardless of how they finish the season? Have they done enough to, you know, first, you think they could be a 1 seed if they win. Secondly, you know, when they finish out the season, do you think they've done enough to cement themselves as a top NCAA tournament team? [00:23:58] Speaker C: I think they're a one seed. If they close out, they should be a one seed. If they don't win the Big East, Tony, they're going to drop them to a two seed because of the other power of the conferences. I think they're going to close out like they shoulders the end of the season, they're the best team in the Big East. Winning the regular season title. They're going to win the Big east tournament. I told y'all a couple pods ago that they had a chance to. They ran the table. Nick was agreeing with me as well that they could get this number one seed. Also when I told you final Four, I'm locked in. I'm locked in. I'm riding away. Yeah. Y'all know what's going on. Patino, white suit came out last game. It's going down, man. New York is on fire. The only thing that New York is tight about right now is he said he ain't recruiting no high school kids. [00:24:45] Speaker A: Nobody here. [00:24:46] Speaker C: That's the only thing everybody's a little sad about. Other than that New York is on fire. But Patino said he ain't recruiting no high school kids. [00:24:54] Speaker A: You shouldn't. There's no need. [00:24:56] Speaker B: I don't blame. [00:24:57] Speaker C: I hear what y'all saying, but when you in New York, once again, I'm telling you as a kid that was here from New York, you aspire to go to St. Johnny Kids. And you hear the head coach saying already, yo, he not. [00:25:08] Speaker D: Hey, them boys gonna have to go to Baruch College. And Kill. [00:25:11] Speaker C: Get a call, enter the portal. [00:25:13] Speaker D: Baruch battles shout out to Baru practices over there. [00:25:18] Speaker A: Kill. I thought they were gonna give me a scholarship. [00:25:20] Speaker B: Hey, I think, I think. I think. I think he. I think he meant he's not, man. [00:25:26] Speaker C: Before you get all into detail. Hold up before you go, Joe Jojo. The thing about Patino saying that, though, what I just want to say is, like, I get you did that and you built your team like double St. John's in his work. But at the end of the day, your best player on the team or 1A, 1B is from New York, Brooklyn, Kadari, Richmond. So. [00:25:46] Speaker D: But I a think he was. So he probably, you know, he got hopping he getting New York boys out the portal. He ain't getting. [00:25:53] Speaker C: Why I even gonna go at that, man. Go, man. [00:25:57] Speaker B: I think he was saying is he's not. High school is not his focus. But if a top dude, like one of the top five, he's gonna recruit, we'll take him. His top five recruit. Like, he's going to recruit those guys. Especially if they from New York. Top five, top ten guy. He feel like he can get them. He's Definitely going to recruit him. He's definitely going to recruit them. St. John's St. John's the late. Hey, I give you credit. I didn't think that he was going to run through the Big east like this. They ran through the Big east like it was nothing. [00:26:26] Speaker C: You keep saying that. Yeah, they. [00:26:28] Speaker D: Hey, he was hiring them early, man. I got to give you that one. You know, I challenged you something right there, man. [00:26:34] Speaker C: Right. [00:26:37] Speaker D: Though. [00:26:37] Speaker C: I'm gonna be honest. I don't know. They had lost that game that I was tight about. I told y'all in our conference, the Georgia. [00:26:43] Speaker D: Was that Georgia. Georgia at the bottom of the sec. [00:26:46] Speaker C: I thought. But they best car. [00:26:48] Speaker D: That's early though. That's early though, right? [00:26:49] Speaker C: Yeah, that tournament was a non conference. [00:26:52] Speaker B: That's what I was going to say. I'm glad you. I'm glad you brought that up. If they don't win the Big east, they might drop to a three seed. [00:26:59] Speaker D: Yeah, I think so. [00:26:59] Speaker B: And the reason why it would be a 3C is just because the way they pumping up the SEC, they will try to give some two seeds because the SEC probably gonna have. They probably gonna try to get us some two seeds too. So. Yeah, St. John should definitely. [00:27:16] Speaker C: They better run the table so they don't leave it up to. No, they run the table. [00:27:19] Speaker D: It'll be fine. I mean, they run a table, they still might get a two. [00:27:22] Speaker B: Nah, depending. [00:27:25] Speaker D: Let's say. Hold up. Let's say Auburn lose in the first round. They one still Duke would won. Still. Let's say Alabama wins the SEC tournament. It's gonna be a one. Or Tennessee. They're going to be a one. [00:27:36] Speaker C: What is. [00:27:37] Speaker D: What if Houston wins the Big 12? They're going to be a one dot. [00:27:39] Speaker C: I got Houston winning the Big 12. Who is. What you call them? What is St. John's rank? [00:27:45] Speaker B: Seven, six. [00:27:47] Speaker A: Six or seven? [00:27:48] Speaker C: Yeah, they won Biggie State. You bugging Gene. Yeah, that's a one. [00:27:52] Speaker D: If you think if Alabama. [00:27:54] Speaker B: No, no, no. [00:27:54] Speaker D: Yes. [00:27:55] Speaker B: Alabama wins the SEC. [00:27:56] Speaker D: They're not get. St. John's is not getting the one. [00:27:58] Speaker C: Alabama's not winning SEC. Why not? Auburn's winning SEC. [00:28:03] Speaker D: They could take an L somewhere. [00:28:04] Speaker C: I mean, you know, you know, Auburn is my. [00:28:06] Speaker D: You know, Auburn is who I'm going. [00:28:07] Speaker C: With to go to the Big 12. Right. That's what they in. [00:28:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Houston should win the Big 12. [00:28:13] Speaker D: Houston. Yeah, they won. [00:28:16] Speaker C: What's the other conference? [00:28:17] Speaker B: Big 10. Big 10 is on the 10. [00:28:19] Speaker D: Big 10 is where I'm. [00:28:21] Speaker C: Big 10 is where I'm going on the limb yeah, I'm gonna let Maine have Maryland. I'm going with the freshman. Because guess what? If they don't do it now they done Ace Bailey and Dylan offer. [00:28:31] Speaker D: You going with them to do what? [00:28:33] Speaker C: In the Big Ten? Why not? They don't. They entering anyway. [00:28:37] Speaker D: Yeah, that's just. [00:28:38] Speaker C: That's just somebody gotta do it. [00:28:41] Speaker D: And you might. You might as well put a parlay on there because you can win some prayers. [00:28:47] Speaker B: You don't even need a parlay. [00:28:48] Speaker C: That's a straight back. So y'all gonna be all like, yeah, don't try to. I'm telling. They got nothing else to do but be pros after this. [00:28:56] Speaker D: Nothing. I'm g. Try to check out some games since the tournament here. [00:28:59] Speaker B: Hey, listen, I'm always rooting for Rockers just because my guy over there. But hey, yo, look, standing on the ledge. [00:29:10] Speaker C: Yo, bro, what else they got to do but be pros? This is it. Go get ready to be a pro. So either they gonna do it or they die. So let's go. Let's go. [00:29:21] Speaker D: Yeah. I still think. I still think my four is going to be the top of the one seed. So that's why I said at the end of the day, so Auburn, Alabama, Duke and Houston stand up. [00:29:32] Speaker A: Yeah, Duke's gonna. I don't think anybody's gonna be within 10 points of them. [00:29:35] Speaker C: That's crazy, because we didn't even. We was like, well, we don't know how good they are. [00:29:38] Speaker B: Right? [00:29:39] Speaker C: They just turned into like a mob squad. [00:29:41] Speaker D: That was the first five. Boy. [00:29:42] Speaker B: It was after they beat on us saying, nimby pick. [00:29:49] Speaker D: I take. Gotta slow down when. [00:29:51] Speaker A: So we talk. [00:29:52] Speaker D: We talk. [00:29:52] Speaker A: St. John's biggies. Let's stay on the biggies. We're Biggie's guys. Okay, so you're triumphantly. You predicted St. John's great job. Harder New York. Let's talk about some other predictions that some of us made. UConn was supposed to be the best. What is going on with UConn? Do you still believe in a man? Are they still a team, a contender? You think they could turn it on and win this thing? [00:30:12] Speaker B: I definitely think they could turn it on. I still believe I'm. [00:30:15] Speaker A: Are they in the tournament now? You think they're in the tournament now? [00:30:18] Speaker B: They're in the tournament. [00:30:19] Speaker D: That's. [00:30:20] Speaker B: That's me. [00:30:20] Speaker D: He has no take. Integrity. [00:30:22] Speaker C: That's nothing at all. [00:30:24] Speaker D: Just none. Just none. [00:30:25] Speaker C: Stop. [00:30:26] Speaker B: Listen. Listen to this. Listen. St. John plays Marquette this weekend. UConn plays Marquette on Wednesday. UConn beat Marquette Wednesday and then UConn play Seahawks Saturday, two wins. Marquette takes two losses. That'll. That'll push Yukon to. They'll get the second seed in. In the Big east, right? [00:30:47] Speaker D: Crane is still right there at three. [00:30:49] Speaker C: They. [00:30:49] Speaker D: They. [00:30:49] Speaker B: They. [00:30:50] Speaker C: Too much, man. [00:30:51] Speaker D: Too much. [00:30:51] Speaker C: Ifing and ifing, man. It's too much. [00:30:53] Speaker D: CR 13 and 5, 6. [00:30:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:57] Speaker D: Utah is 12 and 6 and Marquez 13 and 5. [00:31:01] Speaker B: Three losses to move Marquez to seven to seven losses. Who CR got the end of year. [00:31:05] Speaker D: This boy. This boy. [00:31:07] Speaker C: What is he doing? [00:31:08] Speaker D: If pimp was a fifth, we all be. [00:31:10] Speaker C: What is he trying to. [00:31:12] Speaker B: What I'm trying to tell you is they. [00:31:14] Speaker D: I mean, they got. I mean. Yeah, Craig, they getting them dubs. They play as Hall. Butler. Butler. Yeah. Butler's been awful this year. [00:31:20] Speaker B: No, they. Butler could beat down. Butler could beat them. [00:31:22] Speaker C: Butler's been terrible this year. [00:31:23] Speaker D: What are you talking about? They've been awful. [00:31:27] Speaker C: I don't know. But man, what are you saying, man? [00:31:30] Speaker B: What I'm getting to is Yukon. You don't have to run into St. John's until the Big east championship. They will go on the run like I told y'all. Start of March. They already started off. Besides, I lost the St. John's in at the end of February. They going on this run. They won. They won five out of that. Last. Out of that. They looking good. They gonna go into the tournament playing well. I'm telling you. They. They clicking at the right time. They. They decided to put the ball in the freshman hand. He's. He's playing good outside of that St. John's game. And like you said, St. John's looking like one of the best teams. So whatever. They'll be fine. UConn is going to be okay. UConn is going to be good. [00:32:09] Speaker D: I'm on four of their last six blacks. I'm not actually. Actually, they lost three out of their last seven. They floored three. All right. [00:32:18] Speaker B: See, he went thr. He went. He went throw the extra game. I left the extra game off there. [00:32:22] Speaker C: You said five out of seven. I'm telling you, that extra game, it. [00:32:25] Speaker D: Was four out of seven. [00:32:26] Speaker B: All right, let's go to six. Four out of six. You know you want that extra game in there. UConn's going to be fine. UConn looks good. UConn's playing better. They are playing better. [00:32:37] Speaker C: What y'all want me to say? I told you, go with your team. You right. [00:32:41] Speaker D: Rick Pacino be coaching circles around Dan Hurley. [00:32:43] Speaker B: We not talking about a one on one matchup. We're not talking about at the end of the day. [00:32:47] Speaker D: That's what happens today. [00:32:48] Speaker B: It's not. It's not between. [00:32:51] Speaker D: Coaches matter in college basketball. They matter a lot. [00:32:54] Speaker B: You talking like that, I really can't coach. See, you can't disrespect. [00:32:57] Speaker C: I'm not saying you can't coach. [00:32:58] Speaker D: I'm just saying I ain't want to. [00:33:00] Speaker B: Say coaches matter like you. Like Dan Hurley's not a good coach. [00:33:03] Speaker D: When it comes time to teams that, you know, that close, that's when it comes down to is some coaching. At the end of the day, great adjustments. [00:33:10] Speaker C: You talking like Dan Hurley can't coach. He ain't made no adjustments the last. [00:33:13] Speaker D: Two times I played him, though. Is that fair to say? [00:33:16] Speaker B: Hold up. Stop. Because was they not smacking UConn of St. John's and blew the game? Is that on the players or that's coaching? [00:33:22] Speaker D: We can't answer. [00:33:23] Speaker B: Yeah, they can't handle press. [00:33:25] Speaker C: What you want him to do? What you want him to do? [00:33:27] Speaker B: He ain't out there handling the rock. [00:33:28] Speaker C: Did he prepare? He ain't grinding back in New Jersey. [00:33:31] Speaker D: I don't know if he prepared. [00:33:32] Speaker B: They was out 20. [00:33:34] Speaker A: He depressed you every day. [00:33:36] Speaker D: Did you. Did you see what happened when we played Louisville? [00:33:38] Speaker B: They said had us prepare the best. The best is crazy. [00:33:47] Speaker D: It was exhausted. That's because we went to go see Notorious the night before. It was out all night. [00:33:52] Speaker C: Woman at right in Louisville. [00:33:57] Speaker D: Okay, so those are. [00:33:59] Speaker A: Those are some bold predictions we've made. But I want to put some timestamps on some predictions now because we're a week away from these tournaments to start Power 5 conferences. Let's go through each of the power fives. Who we think is going to win each one. We'll start with the acc. Who's going to win the ACC tournament? [00:34:13] Speaker C: We all agree on Duke. [00:34:15] Speaker D: I'm just fine. [00:34:15] Speaker C: Duke. [00:34:17] Speaker A: Okay. Let's go to Big Ten. [00:34:20] Speaker B: Big Ten. [00:34:20] Speaker C: I told y'all. [00:34:21] Speaker B: Mom, are you ready to stand with that? Yeah. [00:34:23] Speaker C: Yo, let it be. [00:34:25] Speaker D: Let him be. [00:34:25] Speaker C: Let him be. [00:34:26] Speaker D: Let him be, bro. Let it be. [00:34:27] Speaker C: I was a crazy. All right. Watch these pros work. [00:34:30] Speaker D: Oh, my God. [00:34:31] Speaker C: All right, let's go, man. You already gonna say Purdue, so stop acting like you thinking so hard. Come on, we know you. [00:34:39] Speaker B: You're not gonna say Perdue. [00:34:41] Speaker D: Who you asking me was going, man, or me? [00:34:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:45] Speaker D: Big team. [00:34:46] Speaker C: I'm sad. I'm bugging here. I'm. Wow. I forgot Mar. But I think you want to say Purdue rather. But you want to keep your ties. [00:34:56] Speaker D: Nah, you know, I got Marilyn. I picked him as my dark horse. G did, too. [00:35:01] Speaker C: So y'all both got married. Yeah, I like that. Maryland, I got ruckers. Let's get it. Let's go. You got ruckers. [00:35:06] Speaker A: All right, all right. [00:35:07] Speaker C: Somebody have a bold prediction? Got you. [00:35:10] Speaker B: That's a bold prediction. [00:35:12] Speaker C: When I'm right, just don't say nothing, please. [00:35:14] Speaker B: You're not supposed to be right. Sorry. Be not. [00:35:19] Speaker D: 12. Big 12. [00:35:20] Speaker C: Yeah. I said I like Houston. Damn. [00:35:22] Speaker D: Yeah, we all agree to Houston. Come on, now. [00:35:24] Speaker C: I gotta look back. [00:35:25] Speaker B: Look back at that man. Kansas. [00:35:27] Speaker C: So dirt, man. I can't do it. [00:35:29] Speaker D: And they awful this year. [00:35:30] Speaker C: I can't do it. I can't do something. [00:35:32] Speaker D: I thought about saying rock Talk, but I'll be capping. [00:35:34] Speaker C: For real. I like both, but I can't do it. Nah. Oh, yeah. [00:35:38] Speaker A: You don't think TCU can make a. I was. [00:35:39] Speaker C: Yo, stop it. I was gonna say Texas. [00:35:43] Speaker D: Hey, that's not a bad pick. Texas Tech or Texas A and M is not a bad pick. Texas Tech. Big 12 still, right? SEC too. [00:35:54] Speaker B: No, Texas in that Big 12 step. [00:35:57] Speaker D: Big 12. Okay. Okay. So I'm talking about A and M is in the sec. [00:36:00] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. [00:36:01] Speaker C: I can't buy this year. That's the team with Frederico, right? [00:36:03] Speaker A: Yeah, they're second in the Big 12. [00:36:06] Speaker D: Federico looks solid. [00:36:07] Speaker C: The game over. [00:36:08] Speaker D: I watch some games. [00:36:09] Speaker C: Yo, I'm going Texas Tech, man. I don't want to be with these guys or Texas Tech. [00:36:13] Speaker D: Scratches. [00:36:14] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm going to Texas Tech. I just watched them play against Kansas. I know Kansas ain't that good, but they still was in the spot where they go wrong. [00:36:22] Speaker D: How big fella? [00:36:22] Speaker C: Look, that game one with the big chain hunter. [00:36:27] Speaker D: Who? No, the. The freshman Badunga Athletic. Anything? Yeah. Never mind. Yeah. [00:36:34] Speaker B: Actually, you know what? [00:36:35] Speaker D: You know what? [00:36:36] Speaker C: I'm gonna go out on the left. [00:36:40] Speaker B: I'm gonna take Arizona. I'm gonna take Arizona. [00:36:44] Speaker A: Okay. [00:36:44] Speaker B: Arizona. I think. [00:36:45] Speaker A: I think we got Houston, Arizona, Texas Tech. [00:36:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:51] Speaker A: Okay. [00:36:51] Speaker C: What you think, man? Say that last piece one time. [00:36:53] Speaker D: What you gonna say? [00:36:54] Speaker C: I think. [00:36:54] Speaker D: You think what? [00:36:55] Speaker B: I think Caleb Love going. I think he gonna show up in the tournament. I think he. This like. [00:36:59] Speaker D: This is fifth. [00:37:00] Speaker B: Is this since fifth year? [00:37:01] Speaker D: Fifth year that boy been in college. [00:37:02] Speaker B: My boy paid. He's a winner. He's a winner. [00:37:05] Speaker C: Okay, we got the Johnny's white suit patina Yukon. It's room G. Don't even waste your time. [00:37:15] Speaker D: It's real. I'm going crazy. [00:37:18] Speaker B: You better not. [00:37:21] Speaker D: Going crazy. Huh? That's in somewhere other than Indiana. [00:37:32] Speaker C: I don't know where it's at. [00:37:33] Speaker D: Somewhere over there. [00:37:34] Speaker C: I don't know. I want to say Iowa, but I ain't sure. Somewhere. [00:37:40] Speaker D: Somewhere around there. [00:37:41] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:37:42] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm going with Crazy Dog. [00:37:45] Speaker B: He nice, though. [00:37:46] Speaker D: Yeah, he is. Coach McDermott. [00:37:49] Speaker C: Yeah, that's. They also beat St. John's right? Yeah, they did, but that ain't. Do you like. You like the Craven pick? [00:38:00] Speaker A: I like the Craven pick. They're always going to linger around a good coach who's done before. [00:38:04] Speaker C: I see me having the most wins in this. That situation. When we get the. [00:38:08] Speaker B: You know, I mean, last but not. [00:38:10] Speaker A: Least, the sec, best conference in college basketball right now. Who's going to win it? [00:38:16] Speaker D: First of all, I'm tight. They gonna break our record this year. Most teams in the tournament. I'm sick about it. Disgusting. But they gonna get probably 13 or 12 or 13. But I'm going. You know, I'm going with the team that I said from the beginning of the year, the first pod, the second pod, third pod. Auburn Tigers. [00:38:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't. [00:38:34] Speaker D: I don't. [00:38:34] Speaker B: I don't know how you keep saying they gonna get 30. I don't see 13 teams. Go look. [00:38:38] Speaker C: You want to pull it back up. [00:38:39] Speaker D: The list and tell you I pull it back up. You said something in the group and they showed the first, like, the last one. [00:38:46] Speaker B: I don't see 13 teams that should get in. [00:38:49] Speaker D: 12 for sure. 12, I think 12. [00:38:50] Speaker B: No, after 10. I don't see it. [00:38:53] Speaker D: You tripping. [00:38:53] Speaker B: So Georgia's the line. [00:38:56] Speaker A: Georgia's the line. [00:38:57] Speaker B: Is Arkansas getting there? [00:38:58] Speaker A: They have to win. They have to win championship. [00:39:00] Speaker B: Georgia. [00:39:00] Speaker A: Georgia might be in. [00:39:02] Speaker D: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Georgia. I feel like between Georgia. [00:39:09] Speaker B: No, I think so. [00:39:09] Speaker D: You're looking at. [00:39:10] Speaker B: You don't think so. [00:39:11] Speaker D: You're one. No, I'm saying. But which one? [00:39:13] Speaker A: I'm saying. [00:39:14] Speaker D: So Vandy's in for sure. Vandy's definitely in. [00:39:17] Speaker B: Yeah. That's the tenth team. [00:39:18] Speaker D: And then. And then it's going to be between Texas, Georgia, Arkansas. I play two of those. [00:39:23] Speaker A: Vandy's the eighth team, Van's eighth. [00:39:25] Speaker D: One, two, three, four. [00:39:26] Speaker A: The tie. [00:39:28] Speaker B: No, I'm saying. No, they. [00:39:30] Speaker D: They're the 10th team in the. In the standings. They 10. So between Arkansas, Georgia and Texas, I think two of those three getting in. [00:39:36] Speaker B: Maybe Georgia. Texas is 16 and 13. They could get in and pick and get in, man. [00:39:42] Speaker D: They ain't the SEC though. The SEC is. Dog, you know what? [00:39:46] Speaker B: Every game, 5 and 11. [00:39:49] Speaker D: For real. How many qual one wins can you really get in the ACC? [00:39:52] Speaker B: Honestly, Texas is 5 and 11. SEC, you talking about them getting in. That's. [00:39:58] Speaker D: Yo, let's go. Let's pull up. Let's pull up the biggies from 2010, 2011. So let's see what it look like at the bottom. [00:40:04] Speaker B: Hold up. [00:40:05] Speaker D: No, I'm just saying let's see what the bottom look like, because we got 11 teams here. You telling me you don't think one. [00:40:09] Speaker B: Yeah, just hold up. What I'm saying is. Listen to the resume of Tex just saying that. They going to get in the tournament. 16, 13, 5, 11 in conference. [00:40:18] Speaker C: He wants so bad. Look, 5 and 11. [00:40:23] Speaker D: Look at them Missouri, they be Texas. [00:40:26] Speaker C: A and M. That's. [00:40:27] Speaker D: That's. I'm about to give you all that quad one wins. They got like three or four quality one wins. [00:40:32] Speaker C: Like, what do you mean? [00:40:33] Speaker B: That's a lot. [00:40:34] Speaker C: Five and 11 in conference. Gee, they not even seven and eight. [00:40:39] Speaker D: They still got two games left. What you mean? You act like this. They finished 18, 13. They right there. [00:40:47] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:40:48] Speaker C: That's. That's crazy. You know? [00:40:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:52] Speaker D: All they need to do that and get one game in the conference tournament and. [00:40:55] Speaker B: Hold up, hold up. But hold up. I'm just. Just. Just me come back because now I look at Arkansas, they 17 and 12, 6 and 10 in the SEC. It was just 6 and 10, 18. [00:41:05] Speaker D: And 11 they had. So look, you sent this to bracketology with Leonardi. Last four in was they had Arkansas in there first. First four out, they had Texas. So that's those two, two out of three right there. So they just need to do a little bit of work to get in. [00:41:19] Speaker C: Am I right or am I wrong? [00:41:20] Speaker B: Lenardi ain't always. [00:41:22] Speaker D: That's Lenardi. That's bragatology. About 90, 92%, 93. [00:41:30] Speaker A: So 2010, 2011, Big East. If the cutoff line was Marquette at 9 and 9 in conference. [00:41:35] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. [00:41:37] Speaker D: Record, though. [00:41:38] Speaker A: 22 and 15 overall. [00:41:39] Speaker D: They play 18 games. 22, 22 or 15. [00:41:42] Speaker C: Yeah, let's get to. Let's get to the back of that. Shout out to y'all at that record. Like I said in the chat, man, very. Just bad performances in the tournament out of them. 11, 10. Yeah, you are literally saved, y'all, bro. Like, if they don't win it, they the only team to go to the Final Four out of eleven. Not Final Four is easy or nothing, but look, and they was the last team. You would think that, yo, they wasn't even going to the tournament. [00:42:10] Speaker D: You know what I looked at, bro? Like, all those years? Like, every. All four of my years, a Blue Blood team won every single year, no matter what. [00:42:17] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:42:18] Speaker D: Like, it just happens. That's Blue Bloods. They figure ways to get it done. [00:42:22] Speaker C: Stop trying to underperform. Look, I'll. Only one team went to the second round, bro. Out of them, 11. See, I keep parade in this 11 team. Y'all were getting wiped out first, second round. So how many teams went to the. [00:42:38] Speaker D: How many teams went to the sweet 16 your senior? 2009? A lot of us. [00:42:48] Speaker B: Syracuse. [00:42:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:49] Speaker D: What's Syracuse do? Where they go succeed? [00:42:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:53] Speaker B: You calling this 316, too? [00:42:55] Speaker D: It went to the Final Four. [00:42:56] Speaker C: Yukon, right? I don't know why he's talking. Villanova went to the Final Four. [00:42:59] Speaker B: What are we talking about? [00:43:00] Speaker C: We're not even talking about comparing us. It's not about us. I'm just going to the fact y'all always running. Y'all got the record. Kudos. I'm just letting y'all know teams did not perform. And y'all don't talk about that y'all were losing first round or second round? All the biggie scene that's there. Just don't look at it. Because I was looking too, though. I went through it once. I'm like, damn, I was mad about y'all, but I ain't trying to come at you. I'm my bro. But then I started looking at all the rest of the team. I'm like, nobody else did nothing. [00:43:45] Speaker D: Makes me sick thinking about you, man. [00:43:47] Speaker C: I could. That's what I'm saying. You call. [00:43:48] Speaker D: I don't really care about them. [00:43:50] Speaker C: You call, man. They. Yo, they don't do what they do. Well, that 11 team, man. [00:43:56] Speaker D: Man, I mean, now we can run it because they, you know, because they want. [00:43:59] Speaker C: That's why I played. I could always. They want it. They did their thing. But, you know, I mean, it's still levels, like. [00:44:05] Speaker D: And that was a nasty national championship, too. [00:44:06] Speaker C: I'm just gonna always debate y'all, man. Every time y'all give me a chance. [00:44:09] Speaker A: This Marquette made the sweet 16. [00:44:11] Speaker C: Hey, turn up Nick, you don't be. [00:44:14] Speaker D: Having his stats right? [00:44:17] Speaker C: I said one other team made. I think before smack. First and second round and one other team made it. I did say that. Go back. [00:44:27] Speaker A: Louisville lost in the first round. More at State. They got upset. [00:44:31] Speaker C: Get out of here. [00:44:32] Speaker D: What Marquette do? [00:44:35] Speaker C: That's it. [00:44:39] Speaker A: Can't beat Syracuse. [00:44:42] Speaker D: I remember they lost. [00:44:44] Speaker C: Hey, too bad they got to play each other. I don't want to hear it's cannibalism. [00:44:49] Speaker D: Who Georgetown play? Who Georgetown play? Nick, give me Georgetown or West Virginia. Who they play? I want. I need to know these. [00:44:54] Speaker C: Yeah, you need to know it. [00:44:57] Speaker A: Georgetown lost first round of vcu. [00:45:00] Speaker D: That's. That was that caper was careful there. No, he wasn't. [00:45:04] Speaker B: No, he wasn't. Oklahoma. [00:45:05] Speaker D: That's shocking smart. Was that shocker smart? [00:45:07] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. [00:45:08] Speaker C: Let's go. [00:45:09] Speaker D: Let's go. [00:45:10] Speaker A: So St. John's was upset. [00:45:16] Speaker B: Yes. [00:45:17] Speaker C: They had the white hardy in them. I'm trying to say they was wrong. [00:45:22] Speaker D: The countries was loaded now. But you know what? [00:45:26] Speaker C: West Virginia, let's go. [00:45:28] Speaker A: West Virginia lost to Kentucky in the second round. [00:45:31] Speaker D: They went to the Final Four. That's tough. [00:45:33] Speaker C: I know. Yeah, they did. But hey, that year when y'all had that record. [00:45:42] Speaker A: Florida State. [00:45:43] Speaker C: Yeah. Come on. [00:45:45] Speaker D: Emerald 2C. [00:45:45] Speaker A: And they lost to a 10C. [00:45:47] Speaker C: I told you, G. Y'all respect my sources. [00:45:50] Speaker D: Yes. [00:45:51] Speaker B: Right. [00:45:51] Speaker D: I mean, we honestly didn't underperform because we had a champion, unfortunately. [00:45:55] Speaker C: Yo, bro. Are cloudy. Their minds are cloudy, bro. I'm here. [00:45:59] Speaker D: Unw. [00:46:02] Speaker B: I'm looking in the air to know. Ain't nothing up there. [00:46:05] Speaker C: Yo, man, man, keep going. Underperform, right? A two seed, ten seed. Come on, man. [00:46:13] Speaker A: Lee, who won the championship that year? [00:46:14] Speaker C: North Carolina, wasn't it. [00:46:16] Speaker D: It wasn't a Big east team. I knew that. [00:46:18] Speaker C: Michigan State. [00:46:19] Speaker D: They smacked. Who else? Who they smacking? [00:46:21] Speaker C: The. [00:46:21] Speaker D: The final four? Yukon. [00:46:22] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, they didn't. [00:46:24] Speaker D: No. Michigan State beat Louisville. [00:46:25] Speaker B: I mean, Yukon. [00:46:26] Speaker D: Damn. [00:46:28] Speaker B: USC ain't want to see us, I'll tell you that much. [00:46:30] Speaker C: But we not going to go into all that, man. Hey, let's just leave it there. Bury it. [00:46:36] Speaker D: We get out the weeds. I mean, I digress. [00:46:39] Speaker A: We made our predictions. Be sure we clip this and we're going to replay it come come conference tournament time. For sure. [00:46:45] Speaker C: Yeah. Free dinner because I'm winning. So that's what I want. I want dinner. Putting it out there before we wrap up. [00:46:52] Speaker A: Let's talk P. I have a pick question to end it. What are the percent chances we run the table and get to the tournament. [00:47:01] Speaker C: I'm a crazy 37%. 37%. I'm gonna go 37% that we run. [00:47:09] Speaker B: The table in the tournament. In the ACC tournament. [00:47:11] Speaker D: Yeah. I thought you meant the whole game. [00:47:14] Speaker C: Gotcha. 37. I might go to 32. 32 to 37 range. I still final bid for Me, man, I go 20. I knew man was gonna go below sea level, so I tried to give him some cushion. [00:47:30] Speaker D: I give us a 5% chance. [00:47:35] Speaker C: Being real. [00:47:36] Speaker D: I don't see us. I don't see. [00:47:37] Speaker C: I'm just saying. [00:47:38] Speaker D: I don't see us be. I don't see us be. I don't see us being Duke, bro. I don't see. I'm just being real. I don't see us being Duke. I just don't. I mean, I'm just being real. Watch them play. I mean, if duke get all 5%, if we run into Duke, if Duke gets upset somehow I. I can go up a little bit. I probably go 18%. [00:47:56] Speaker B: I think we could beat Duke. [00:47:57] Speaker C: I don't want to get into that, man. See, that's because. That's, that's why I'm. I can't say all these things. How we be. I feel like, man, I don't want. [00:48:08] Speaker D: Let the hands fly. Let your hands fly, man. [00:48:10] Speaker B: I got. [00:48:11] Speaker C: I don't want to sell. I. I agree with, man. I don't want to get into all that, man. Cuz we. So I'm gonna leave it at my 32 to 37. [00:48:18] Speaker D: I got 5 and 18. [00:48:19] Speaker B: I'm saying I'm staying 20. I'm staying at 20. Where you at? [00:48:23] Speaker D: I'm going to say I'm like 2% under you. [00:48:24] Speaker C: I'm cool. [00:48:25] Speaker D: I can rock with that. [00:48:26] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no. 15 under me. That 18 is. [00:48:30] Speaker D: No, I said, I said 18. I'm just saying let's be real. [00:48:34] Speaker B: It has the asterisk next to it. Okay, you're right. [00:48:37] Speaker D: It's Ashley. I feel like we don't run it to him. I think we can, you know, 33. [00:48:42] Speaker A: Chance we make the championship game. [00:48:44] Speaker C: He said championship. [00:48:46] Speaker A: 5% chance we win it all. Because if we're rolling like that, we get to the championship game, that increases the odds a little bit. It is a matchup contingent, but anybody could be beat. Duke's the really the only team that I fear. [00:48:57] Speaker C: I see you and Gary. Yeah, I'm real scared. Yeah, I know how I feel about Duke. [00:49:02] Speaker B: It's always. [00:49:03] Speaker C: It's always. [00:49:04] Speaker D: Clemson's tough too. [00:49:05] Speaker A: Outside of Pitt, Clemson is my favorite ACC team. I like Clemson a lot, but so good. [00:49:10] Speaker D: They got that guard. What's the guard name? [00:49:11] Speaker C: He came back. [00:49:12] Speaker D: I can't think of his name. Nice. Yup. [00:49:16] Speaker B: I don't care if it's something about. I feel, I feel about Clemson, like I said about Notre Dame. [00:49:21] Speaker A: Right? [00:49:22] Speaker D: About Clemson. [00:49:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:23] Speaker B: I feel. I feel the same way about how I felt about Notre Dame when we played. [00:49:27] Speaker D: We got a question, though, but it's not about basketball. I got a question, but it's not about basketball. [00:49:31] Speaker C: All right, let me ask you one thing before you ask your question. Where it's Korean. [00:49:37] Speaker A: Listen, it's in Nebraska, y'all. [00:49:41] Speaker D: I gotta do something. [00:49:42] Speaker C: What's that? So it's over. It's over there. I said if we ask. [00:49:47] Speaker D: I really don't know where. [00:49:48] Speaker C: I really. I really don't know where it's at. [00:49:50] Speaker D: I really don't know where it's at. Midwest. So. [00:49:52] Speaker A: No, you're Midwest. [00:49:53] Speaker D: Come on. I feel like it's in Nebraska. It's Nebraska or Iowa. I thought it was Nebraska. [00:50:00] Speaker C: Huh? [00:50:01] Speaker D: Is it in Omaha? [00:50:02] Speaker A: Omaha. [00:50:03] Speaker D: See, look, I figured. Look, that's. That's just something, you know, because, you. [00:50:06] Speaker C: Know, the pressure ain't on. Now, why are you asking me that? [00:50:10] Speaker A: That concludes another great podcast, Pit Legends Podcast. Be sure you guys subscribe. Keep following the channel, because we're in March Madness and we're all about college basketball. Let's see if some of these bold predictions come to fruition. Vance Fields, Gary McGee, Jermaine Dixon. I'm your host, Nick Rivers. We're signing out.